Adrian-kun
Member
I really don't like the name, but how can you go wrong with dual thumb sticks. Here are some pics:
Specs and info:
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/26/sony-reveal-ngp-as-next-portable-games-device/
http://psp.ign.com/articles/114/1146358p1.html
Also, a list of third party developers whi will be supporting this new device:
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/27/these-third-party-developers-are-backing-sonys-ngp/
So what do you guys think?
Xelloss
Member
I think it looks good TBH. The specs and design seem to be top class.
The way they seem to be trying to encourage the development ecosystem with both PS3 asset compatibility and Playstation Suite ( their new mobile initiative on Droid ) support plus PSP backward compatibility is extremely encouraging. Publishers wont inadvertently be punished by Sony for releasing new PSP games late in its life cycle.
They will actually have plenty of good software available for this device from day 1, the specs are awesome - especially the touch screen and size and 3G. So far, all indications point to Sony having pulled their heads out of their collective asses and this will be a viable competitor to 3DS and Apple.
3G capability means we might even see subsidized packages from mobile carriers.
I think we have a winner. In fact, NGP makes 3DS look weak in all categories except for the 3D gimmick and the Nintendo branding. Apple momentum into gaming market will be significantly hampered as well, for the first time since the PS1 I think Sony might actually have pulled a true coup here.
Adrian-kun
Member
to Xelloss: Why can't these devices coexist? I, for one, play adventure games such as the Ace Attorney series on my DS and RPGs such as Valkyria Chronicles II on my PSP. Diversity is always a good thing. You wouldn't any one company to own everything, would you?
Xelloss
Member
Adrian-kun said:
to Xelloss: Why can't these devices coexist? I, for one, play adventure games such as the Ace Attorney series on my DS and RPGs such as Valkyria Chronicles II on my PSP. Diversity is always a good thing. You wouldn't any one company to own everything, would you?
I am sure that they will coexist. I just think Sony NGP might have a shot at enjoying the position Nintendo currently has with the DS.
Endless_.Hacker
Member
Because their entirely different, theirs a reason why multiple came consoles exist, why multiple hand helds exist etc. competition breads creativity, if their was only a single one then creativity dies down and companies can judge how things should go.
Your an idiot if you think the 3DS and PSP2 can't co-exist, I mean OH NO TOUCH SCREEN! so what? just because both have a touch screen and one has fancier toys doesn't mean that one is the obviously superior toy.
Tokyo Sandblaster
Member
Endless_.Hacker said:
Because their entirely different, theirs a reason why multiple came consoles exist, why multiple hand helds exist etc. competition breads creativity, if their was only a single one then creativity dies down and companies can judge how things should go.Your an idiot if you think the 3DS and PSP2 can't co-exist, I mean OH NO TOUCH SCREEN! so what? just because both have a touch screen and one has fancier toys doesn't mean that one is the obviously superior toy.
Dunno, seems like all of the top systems were the ones that totally monopolized the market - snes, ps1, ps2, gameboy. these platforms received lots of third party exclusives or at least ports. seems like it's only now that there isn't a king of the console wars and that seems like more of a negative thing than anything else. development costs are high, companies dying all over the place, games being sold for premium prices, etc. so I just don't see how the stronger competition is helping anything. no doubt we'd be better off if either ps3 or 360 died so devs wouldn't have to develop two versions of every game and so the market would be less segmented, leading to higher sales on a singular platform.
xellios nailed it. only thing hardware-wise that 3ds has on PSP2 is gimmicky stuff like 3d and a 99% useless second screen. if it werent' for nitendo's software there would be no reason to buy one.
edit: also, there's always competition on some level. even if ps3 or 360 died you would still have third parties competing for highest selling game on that one platform instead of over two platforms.
Xelloss said:
I am sure that they will coexist. I just think Sony NGP might have a shot at enjoying the position Nintendo currently has with the DS.
Excuse me if I'm not so optomistic. This is Sony we're talking about. The PSP was superior to the DS, and the DS has the larger userbase. The PS3 was superior to the Wii, and Wii has the larger userbase. In fact, they only just now got to the level the 360 is at, and it took them YEARS to get to the position they're in now. As nice as this looks, there's always the chance that Sony will screw things up.
Now if they have some killer apps for launch titles? I'm there.
Besides, I think as long as Nintendo has Pokemon, they're not going anywhere.
Xelloss
Member
@JasonPaul : I agree that Nintendo is not going anywhere, and I do not doubt that the 3DS will enjoy at least some measure of success.
My reason for optimism centers around the more intelligent approach Sony seems to be taking towards their development ecosystem.
PS3 assets are apparently quite compatible, and the development environment is supposedly quite similar. A traditional Sony problem for all their systems excepting the original PS1 ( for which they bought up British publisher Psygnosis, largely due to their development tools which they then shared with their licensed developers )is that they paid little to no attention to the wants or convenience of their developer community.
The other side, is its compatibility with the Playstation Suite - in other words, games and software for their Playstation branded Android devices will also work on NGP, and since PSuite will apparently be available to any handset maker that meets basics system requirements and runs Android 2.3 or later - I expect much of the mobile and indy development community to hop on board.
Plus it still plays your old PSP games... at least the ones available on PSN.
This should almost certainly result in a much stronger and enthusiastic 3rd party support base, much earlier in the product life cycle, with a wide variety of games and software.
The glut of both software and connectivity are the reasons I think the NGP can end up with the superior market share, not just hardware specs. You are absolutely correct to point out that superior specs do not necessarily translate to superior market position.
Of course Sony could still screw it up, with insane pricing or something - but the subtle hints seem to indicate they may have learned their lesson, at least in regards to how they treat their development ecosystem.
Tokyo Sandblaster
Member
That's like saying N64 will be a big hit just because SNES was. That's like saying PS3 will be a big hit just because PS2 was. I don't think Nintendo should be so cocky with their high price points and friend codes because all Sony needs is a good marketing campaign, a good price, and some killer titles and that'll do it.
They already pretty much won Japan. Monster Hunter at launch? Yeah, annihilated.
Vlad
Member
I'm sold on the system to be honest. And I'm the guy who waited to buy EACH and every console he owns. I want it as soon as I can get it and am starting to save now.
I don't want it because of the usually silly Sony marketing, but only based on the games the PSP now has, that have a large possibility to continue appearing in the NGP.
Valkyria Chronicles, Uncharted, more than likely a God of War, etc. If Sony is intelligent, they'll make the downloadable games for the PS3 and PSP available for the NGP as well. Megaman 9 and 10 while waiting between stops? Please do.
Treequil
Member
Oh, thought I'd clarify really quick, "NGP" is it's prototype name, like "Project Natal" for Kinect and "Project Sora" for Icarus... It's prototype name stands fully for "Next Generation Console".
Also thought I'd link to Sony's posts in this...
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/26/live-from-japan-playstation-meeting-2011/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/26/introducing-the-next-generation-of-portable-gaming/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/27/next-generation-portable-ngp-all-the-early-details/
Quig
Member
Treequil said:
Oh, thought I'd clarify really quick, "NGP" is it's prototype name, like "Project Natal" for Kinect and "Project Sora" for Icarus... It's prototype name stands fully for "Next Generation Console".Also thought I'd link to Sony's posts in this...
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/26/live-from-japan-playstation-meeting-2011/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/26/introducing-the-next-generation-of-portable-gaming/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/27/next-generation-portable-ngp-all-the-early-details/
Agreed. This will be called the PSP2 when it gets release, its their pedigree. I'm VERY interested in this and the PlayStation Suite. They said it would be out later in 2011; however, I would imagine that it will be out in Japan (first) by the end of this year and we'll see it next spring. I really doubt that they will have a simultaneous release date because of the lack of games in the US.
Quig
Member
Treequil said:
Oh, thought I'd clarify really quick, "NGP" is it's prototype name, like "Project Natal" for Kinect and "Project Sora" for Icarus... It's prototype name stands fully for "Next Generation Console".Also thought I'd link to Sony's posts in this...
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/26/live-from-japan-playstation-meeting-2011/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/26/introducing-the-next-generation-of-portable-gaming/
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/01/27/next-generation-portable-ngp-all-the-early-details/
Agreed. This will be called the PSP2 when it gets release, its their pedigree. I'm VERY interested in this and the PlayStation Suite. They said it would be out later in 2011; however, I would imagine that it will be out in Japan (first) by the end of this year and we'll see it next spring. I really doubt that they will have a simultaneous release date because of the lack of games in the US.
Treequil
Member
Hollow_Ninja said:
Sweet, now that it's officially confirmed that there's going to be a physical medium for games, I can't wait to get my hands on one of these bad boys! Screw the 3DS, I dont' even care about it anymore.
I hadn't realized until reading your post that my excitement for the 3DS has noticeably fallen... (And hadn't remembered to say that in my first post)
I'm in full support of Sony, but I just don't foresee the best numbers unless they're able to market well...
The specs are amazing, except the shinier technology (3D without glasses) will probably gain bigger starting sales as opposed to something with lots of nice stuff but nothing brand-new... One really good example being how the Wii sold...
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