Cave is releasing Deathsmiles 2X in N.A.

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Cave is releasing Deathsmiles 2X in N.A.

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Started 2 years ago by matty
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Spooky
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Eelcire said:
Wow, such hostility towards people who prefer physical media. Why not just enjoy the news of the game and not resort to name calling?

I know what you mean. I think the AH3 debate has gotten everyone pretty riled up. I had to take a break from the forum for a few days because because it got so bad. This is great news about DS2X. My personal hope is that they'll do a cool LE to commemorate their first US publishing. However because cave is a small publisher that may be a little much to hope for.

Posted 2 years ago #
veve
Member

Interesting, if MS is letting Cave to release DS2X worldwide via GOD, then nothing stops ASW from doing the same with AH3...

Posted 2 years ago #
RedEagleEX
Member

Yeah I would be a bit shocked if Microsoft let a company release a Games on Demand title without a retail package also.

Otherwise whats the point of having an XBLA with all its restrictions if you could just bypass that section and go straight into Games on Demand that ignores those restrictions?

Posted 2 years ago #
asrttyoxo
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RedEagleEX said:
Yeah I would be a bit shocked if Microsoft let a company release a Games on Demand title without a retail package also.

Otherwise whats the point of having an XBLA with all its restrictions if you could just bypass that section and go straight into Games on Demand that ignores those restrictions?

Because the games being released already have retail versions (even if they are Japanese versions only).

Posted 2 years ago #
NeoStrayCat
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Well, seeing as though DS2(X) is coming to the US, and the speculation on whether it'll be Disk or Digital (or either) seems that way, but who knows about when it will be out, just thinking around Christmas/Holiday time (or whenever they announce a specific date), since that's the theme of the game though.

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Posted 2 years ago #
PhunkGamer
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NeoStrayCat said:
Well, seeing as though DS2(X) is coming to the US, and the speculation on whether it'll be Disk or Digital (or either) seems that way, but who knows about when it will be out, just thinking around Christmas/Holiday time (or whenever they announce a specific date), since that's the theme of the game though.

The game was released back in May in Japan. Lol.

Posted 2 years ago #
Rbu80schild
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veve said:
Interesting, if MS is letting Cave to release DS2X worldwide via GOD, then nothing stops ASW from doing the same with AH3...

I sure hope so, or maybe this can convince Aksys to release their version on Games-On-Demand as well. I could care less whether my games were on disc or Digital Download. I just want my games, Period.

Posted 2 years ago #
kasumi1970
Member

Rbu80schild said:
I sure hope so, or maybe this can convince Aksys to release their version on Games-On-Demand as well. I could care less whether my games were on disc or Digital Download. I just want my games, Period.

I agree with you 100%

Posted 2 years ago #
kasumi1970
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RedEagleEX said:
Yeah I would be a bit shocked if Microsoft let a company release a Games on Demand title without a retail package also.

Otherwise whats the point of having an XBLA with all its restrictions if you could just bypass that section and go straight into Games on Demand that ignores those restrictions?

why are you being so negative? they can change there policies....they done it before.

Posted 2 years ago #
RedEagleEX
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Why am I being negative? Umm...now Aksys (Or any other small/niche companies) no longer needs to release many future titles on Discs anymore and instead release them similiar to how PS3 users get them. Digital Download Only.

Now I understand your point kasumi1970 that it means MORE titles will be available on Xbox360.

Thats a POSITIVE.

The negative that I see...which you clearly don't see yet...

Is that small/niche companies now, such as Aksys for instance, no longer need to release future titles on Disc for Xbox360 if they don't have to. Rather they can go via the PS3 route of Digital Download only thus Xbox360 fans will now join PS3 fans and share the "joy" that many PS3 fans have enjoyed since Record of Agarest War :D.

Of course I am not saying ALL games from small/niche companies, such as Aksys, would release all their titles on Games on Demand ONLY in the future. However, we may see a decrease of disc released titles and an increase of Games on Demand Only titles in the future now that retail versions are no longer required.

So yes...I am being negative. But its a valid negative.

It seems YOU would rather have Microsoft no longer force companies to release Discs if they want to get a slice of the Xbox360 Userbase but instead you support the idea of how Sony does it and...have no such restrictions so publishers/developers can release Digital Download Only titles. >_> (Hope you have a large Xbox360 HDD like my PS3 which supports a lovely 500GB HDD for all the lovely Digital Download Only titles I own on it.)

Additional Notes: Yes they have change their policies but it had NO NEGATIVE EFFECTS!! Such as how does increasing XBLA Disk Restrictions have a negative effect? There is none. >_>

Posted 2 years ago #
Tokyo Sandblaster
Member

Having more options available is not a negative.
Aksys can choose DD or disk. For big games with a lot of sales power it makes sense to do both, for smaller niche games it makes more sense to do one or the other or disk first DD later because otherwise you're fragmenting a small niche fanbase and when you do that you'll likely take a loss on the much riskier disk distribution so you've got to ask yourself how much better the game can do as a disk release, if at all because we're now at the point where the type of games that used to be ignored at retail are now pushing monster numbers on XBLA/PSN (Castle Crashers, Worms, Bomberman, Peggle, etc. would have bombed as disk releases) so it's hardly a simple decision because you can also argue that DeathSmiles did pretty well as a retail release while it might have bombed like Guwange bombed if it were a XBLA release because so many XBLA releases are completely ignored.

But like I said, DD is the future and a lot of these problems can be fixed by MS/Sony improving their systems, making the quality stuff more transparent while hiding the junk as well as time because like you said, not everybody has a HDD big enough for DD but in the future we'll all have bigger HDD's and faster internet connections

Posted 2 years ago #
apatDALAWAMPU
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After reading here that this and the RE remakes will receives digital releases in the U.S. while Japan has disc release, I am disappointed that we do not have Arcana Heart 3.

This thread however is about Deathsmiles.

I have not played the one released by Aksys last year. Is it ok for children? Recently, I downloaded the trial of Trouble Witches Neo! and my niece said she liked it. My opinion on shmups is not high, but if it gives me something for both of us to enjoy together then I am all for it and will pick it up.

Posted 2 years ago #
Tokyo Sandblaster
Member

It's perfect for children

Posted 2 years ago #
RedEagleEX
Member

See I am viewing my stance at a consumer level.

Thats where I see my negative.

As a business, there is no negative as you said. I am not gonna argue with it because thats all true with what you said. I have ZERO counters against that and I never said it was a bad business choice at all on my post.

However I am STILL a consumer in the end.

And THIS consumer PREFERS disks. (Especially Collector's Edition/Limited Edition Packages!)

I don't understand why you even wanted to counter me Tokyo Sandblaster because I would think you would have clearly read on my post that it favors the publisher/developer 100%. But it doesn't favor the consumer at all.

Of course I will buy games if they are only released Digital Download Only for North America. However...it doesn't mean I am not disappointed. It just means I have to spend more to get what I want. >_> (View picture below to see what I mean)

As you can see I have Record of Agarest Wars Collector's Edition for Xbox360. Next to it...I also have the PS3 Europe Version of Agarest War. Both are still sealed and brand new.

Why?

Because I also bought Aksys Games's PS3 Version of Record of Agarest War on PSN. >_>

The next game is SIREN: New Translations. I got 2 versions of this game.

1) North American PSN Version which is broken up into multiple Digital Download as Episodes.

2) Japan's Disc Version of ALL the Episodes on Blu-Ray. (This is how it was originally released in Japan. And yes this version contains the same English Audio/Subtitles as the North American version. No differences between the North American and Japan's Version.)

Next game is Patapon 2 for North America...in UMD Format.

Yeah I know what you are thinking. "But Red! Sony ONLY released Patapon 2 as a Digital Download Only for North America. Europe and Japan got it on both UMD and Digital Download!"

You are correct...until Patapon 2 in North America BOMBED. They finally released it as a UMD. (And yes I own the Digital Download version as well because thats what Sony gave me originally. >_> Dunno if I want to thank Sony or what on this.)

Finally PixelJunk Monster's DELUXE. A game originally made as a Digital Download Only on PS3. I bought all of the PixelJunk Monster's game on PS3. Its fun. Then Sony wanted to see if they could take a Digital Download Only title...and see if it will get great sales as a Retail UMD Title. My answer: GOOD CHOICE SONY!! And bought to show my support that they should do exactly that.

So Tokyo Sandblaster. If you are talking about Options...I got them all. ^___^ But I and my wallet would prefer if North America gets games on discs.

Posted 2 years ago #
Neko Arc Chaos
Member

Won't matter to me how it'll come out. I'll get it in whatever format it comes out in. I'll be getting a 360 sometime in the next month, due to a lack of interesting games in May.

By the way, in the picture Red Eagle shows, is that the so called "Naughty" LE of Agarest?

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Posted 2 years ago #
matty
Yes.

^Yup!

Posted 2 years ago #
innuendologist
Member

So does cave have an NA branch now?

Posted 2 years ago #
Mina_Aino
Member

game was released as disk in Japan, so I wont buy it unless its released as disc in America like the first game.

Posted 2 years ago #
matty
Yes.

innuendologist said:
So does cave have an NA branch now?

I'm not sure a branch like say NIS or Atlus does, but I probably think a division of the company that handles digital releases outside Japan regions. At least, that's the impression I get when I see a few games released as downloads only. Who knows, maybe? Cave has expressed creating a presence overseas, and this is one way they're doing it.

And what is it with humans and physical attachments? I will never know... Personally, a game I'm looking forward to could be released on a piece of sting tied to a mouse on a cheese grater, I'll play it. I'll wrestle three koalas to get a game I wanted, no questions asked.

Posted 2 years ago #
Syd Lexia
Member

Not sure if Cave has a North American branch persay, but they a cave_world_en Twitter account which is listed as "Official English Twitter for CAVE WORLD iPhone/iPod applications". They have been known to answer questions for import gamers though.

The iPhone/iPod is a garbage gaming platform, especially for shmups. It's a shame that that's how they've chosen to break into the US market.

Posted 2 years ago #