linkon
Member
I am very disappointed with Aksys System on Agarest War.
You delay the PS3 version just because you need time to work on the XBOX 360. It is ready (Europe has it), but you gave PS3 owner the shaft to appease Microsoft so they can be released together, at the same time.
Not to mention PS3 also get the inferior, download version. No disc, no box art, no resale value.
Extremely disappointed for giving PS3 owner the shaft, TWICE.
topher
Member
Do you expect something special to happen if you whine and complain? As far as I know, the publisher doesn't have much say in those kind of decisions.
If you're really that upset, then import the European version (although it has less content). And just because a game you want is being released as a downloadable version, it's not the end of the world.
Well said, Toph.
I don't see why you're placing all the blame on Aksys. If anything, they're giving you MORE options and MORE gameplay value from what they can offer, but no, you want more?
Listen, many folks around here already expressed their opinions, reasons, etc. 'cause you and everyone else are really passionate about the game - that's cool, but stop the NERDRAGE. You practically got all your bases covered by two awesome publishers, so why the Haterade? You know the game is coming, right? Games get delayed sometimes (usually for the the better) and that happens, you know this.
Really, just chill, say your peace - I'm sure Aksys is open ears as they always are (that's why they're here, after all), they do what they can, and whatever happens, happens.
You people make my hair grayer than it really should be sometimes...
Dragonkingtatsu
Member
I can see how it seem the 360 version is getting preference . I would really like a answer from the company; If both gamesaare being treated equally, than why is the Ps3 version Digital only when the 360 version will have physical copies?
Seems like a contradiction in terms to me.
Idiot, even if its digital, they delayed it so we can have trhopies (wich nobody else have, and the trophis system is something i enjoy) and also we get the extra stuff the xbox version have, on the ps3 WHEN NOT EVEN THE JAPANESE's, nor eurpoe's ps3 release version have them.
So we will get more stuff we deserve, even if its digital, im happy to get all the extra stuff
magusgs
Member
I've heard in various places that SCEA (i.e., Sony America) has a hard rule saying that games for the PS3, for the US market, must have an English dub included. Apparently that rule can be circumvented by making a game download-only. I would guess that's why Aksys is not / cannot release the PS3 version as a retail product. Ghostlight is based in Europe, so they wouldn't fall under SCEA's jurisdiction, and thus they could release a retail game without a dub.
Admittedly I can't find any reputable sources that confirm this. But it makes a lot more sense than the "favoritism" argument (because, you know, Aksys gets their jollies pissing off customers for no real reason). Obviously, if it was true, Aksys would never admit it, because that would jeapordize their relationship with Sony.
magus? xD from rpgfan? haha its me! the same wildarms from there :P
"I for one don't believe this "English dub only" requirement exists because the American PS1 and PS2 both have had games with no english dub"
Exactly, but how many and *when* were they released?
For PS2, I can only think of Arcana Heart (Atlus, last year. No AH2 from them again, yet) and Yakuza 1 and 2 (late last year. No Y3 here yet, either). Consider that when games along the very niche audience (ie. fighting) were finally get their due. I would think because things were getting more relaxed.
As for PS1, only that one cooking game that came with the PS Underground demo, but that had limited voice acting to begin with I wouldn't count those games.
PS3; any for that system?
I'm not sure what's so hard to believe when you notice that quite a few games over the years were blocked by SCEA. You remember Working Designs (publisher) with the very outspoken Victor Ireland, don't you?
And not that this says much, or totally gives us officail answers - you probably haven't listened to the Aksys Nation podcasts, but in Ep. 7 it seems that a few individuals absolutely love the PS3. It seems silly hearing these statements after listening to that.
Just observe the situation before making narrow accusations is all I'm saying, 'cause we (including myself) don't know what goes on in the brain of the industry sometimes.
topher
Member
And while we're talking about podcasts, listen to #20 at about 5:30. He says "It's nothing that we can say outright, but it's basically out of our control. And we'll just leave it at that. That's all we can say at this point. And, uh, sorry."
@majob: So there you have it. We'll probably never know if the English dub thing is true, but this is pretty definitive proof that Aksys DOES, in fact, have PS3 owners interests in mind. They told us way back in August that it isn't their fault. Now everyone can stop whining.
telepathy
Member
@godslayer
i dont know why they wouldn't but i'm assuming that they want better sales of the game?
@arcademaid
Importing is nice & all (& probably cheaper considering the price + shipping) but it would be better to have that NA release that is compatible with NA PSN & has access to the NA technical support when purchased from a NA retailer. I hope you understand what I am getting at.
magusgs
Member
"I for one don't believe this "English dub only" requirement exists because the American PS1 and PS2 both have had games with no english dub. I don;t know what Aksys has up it's sleeve but it's certainly not the interest of PS3 owners."
According to the rumors, the rule applies to current generation games only. The current generation is PS3. Once upon a time, however, PS2 games fell under the dub requirement as well. Then the PS3 came out, and Sony relaxed their rules for the PS2, allowing games like Yakuza and Arcana Heart to come out without a dub.
"if aksys really is being fair to the ps3 users then they should be releasing the 360 version as download only but no they arent."
Once again, I ridicule this concept of "fairness", which I construe as "envy". I have yet to see a convincing justification why, because group X is not getting Y, group Z should also not get Y. Group X should not be concerned with what Group Z is getting. If you're going to claim favoritism, be prepared to back up your claim with evidence. Burden of proof is always on the accuser, and a plausible alternative explanation has already been offered.
kupomogli
Member
Isn't the 360 version an upgraded version with alot more content and in Japan the PS3 version doesn't have that content but Aksys is porting the PS3 and 360 version and in the US we're getting all the exclusive content the 360 version has.
If you ask me, that's doing a favor for the PS3 fans. They could have just localized it and not added the extra content because it was never included in the original source to begin with yet they're going out of their way to do so.
This is coming from a PS3 fanboy btw. The DLC only part is the only thing I really don't like, but I wasn't interested in the game anyways so nothing I have to worry about. But yeah. They're giving you more than you would have received otherwise, so you should be grateful.
artego
Member
@linkon
"You delay the PS3 version just because you need time to work on the XBOX 360. It is ready (Europe has it)"
You do know Aksys was re-editing the (bad) script they got from Ghostlight as well as checking translation, right? I don't know about you, but I prefer to have the best quality in my localization. Misspelled words *bug* the HELL out of me.
And since they also added the 360 new content, they would have to edit AND translate AND port (the original PS3 version never had the content!) that content as well TROPHIES!
"Not to mention PS3 also get the inferior, download version. No disc, no box art, no resale value."
Blame SCEA. They have a 'no JP audio' only policy. The only time they ease up on that policy is when the console is dead and they want to focus support on the new console (see late PS2 game released after the PS3 launch)
@godslayer
"if aksys really is being fair to the ps3 users then they should be releasing the 360 version as download only but no they arent."
XBLA doesn't allow more than 1GB, how would they get it on there?
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