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   Comandante
   Member

   Davin said:
   (For my part, I'm going to e-mail Aksys with some suggestions to pass on to Arcsys, because I'm arrogant enough. Ways to make life hell for potential pirates in the future. Am I one of those pirates? Probably!)

   First of all I like your style, Davin.

   In regards to anti-piracy software, I'm a little hesitant to get behind that. As you can probably see from my posts I am pretty much against piracy but my experience with anti-piracy software is that it causes more problems for the end-user (read: dude what buys the game) than it does to prevent piracy.

   Case and point is I have a copy of Oblivion that I can't load on my computer because I don't have a DVD drive. In most cases like this I'd use my roomie's drive over the network. Some anti-piracy software prevented me from doing that. Simple enough fix is for me to get a DVD drive but until then, no Oblivion for me.

   In the long run I hope your ideas are brilliant, but for now I remain a little skeptical of quality anti-piracy software.

   Posted 2 years ago #
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   Davin
   Member

   Is this really the interwebs? Taking a balanced approach is supposed to get me basted by both sides of the table. In all seriousness though, thanks. 8)

   I agree with you regarding DRM. Disclosing what I've privately suggested would obviously defeat the point of having done so, but I will say that that the interests of legitimate consumers are respected by it.

   Posted 2 years ago #
3. 

   Comandante
   Member

   Davin said:
   Is this really the interwebs? Taking a balanced approach is supposed to get me basted by both sides of the table. In all seriousness though, thanks. 8)

   Oh -your mother is a classy lady-! You're right! Ummm... yer mom. Take that Davin.

   Posted 2 years ago #
4. 

   Davin
   Member

   akakaze said:
   I plan on buying the game for consoles if it materializes. I guess my main concern is this leak may cause them to not even bother. I know for a FACT, having attended a gathering this weekend where lots of BB:CS was played, that there are lots of people (based on my small sample size) that fall under category #5.

   But I'm a software developer myself and hang out with a lot of other software developers who understand the need to support companies - especially in this climate - and when they do pirate it is only under circumstances like this where the software isn't available any other way, and will purchase the program when it is.

   Yeah, the crew I hang out with is also very much demographic #5. I expect that sentiment to be fairly common among longstanding Arcsys fans, which isn't so much a justification of piracy on my part as simply being realistic.

   While they love the product and want more of it - which entails keeping our A(rc/k)sys overlords paid and fed - the simple truth is that it's really, *really* hard to stay true to a person's better morals when they know that they're going to buy the console version anyway, and that many others are already enjoying a slice of what they've been waiting for. I call it "grey morals" - you plan to do right by the piracy you're taking advantage of, but that doesn't change the fact that many of the other pirates don't have nearly the same good intentions.

   Ultimately, I think the silver lining of the cloud is that anyone who really does like Blazblue will still end up buying the console version no matter what, because of the excellent amount of work that both Arcsys and Aksys put into the console localization. That really does pay off in the end, not just in terms of customer satisfaction and brand loyalty. It also ensures that in the wake of an early arcade leak, people are still eagerly waiting in anticipation of a product which will be vastly superior to it.

   The worst thing they can do at this point is let this piracy outbreak dishearten them too much, and that's part of why I'm here and doing my best to pencil in-between the lines of "pirate" and "won't pirate".

   Posted 2 years ago #
5. 

   Kalean
   Member

   Belisarius said:
   I am always here, Kalean. In the smile of every child. In the glow of every sunrise.

   Channeling Bang much? Wish other companies' forum goers could manage that.

   Alright, so now comes the big question. If we want to give Aksys the most money, should we buy retail, or do you guys make more profit on Digital sales like Agarest War?

   --

   As to the moral dilemmas of this thread, let me just say that while I have an odd stance on software piracy, (Copying is several orders of magnitude below stealing, but still wrong) I think that doing things like posting screenshots from one's pirated copy is a crude thing to do.

   Many people are going to buy this game. Hopefully more than bought CT. That's what matters.

   Posted 2 years ago #
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   telepathy
   Member

   Kalean said:
   Alright, so now comes the big question. If we want to give Aksys the most money, should we buy retail, or do you guys make more profit on Digital sales like Agarest War?

   I think they make about the same amount (depending on how much the PSN version costs). The digital copy is nice though for them since there is no way to resell it which means all copies of digital, that are bought, are all new & ultimately profit for them.

   Also if you read this, this is something I read about retail games:
   http://www.forbes.com/2006/12/19/ps3-xbox360-costs-tech-cx_rr_game06_1219expensivegames.html

   Posted 2 years ago #
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   akakaze
   Member

   Davin said:
   The worst thing they can do at this point is let this piracy outbreak dishearten them too much, and that's part of why I'm here and doing my best to pencil in-between the lines of "pirate" and "won't pirate".
   

   I tried to say as much and was insta-perma-banned from NeoGAF. I made a mistake. T_T

   Anyways, the fact of the matter remains that I plan on plunking down cash for the game as soon as it becomes available, and look forward to seeing how the new story plays out. I hope a console version is indeed in the works and ArcSys doesn't get discouraged by the leak. I have no idea if Japan knows about this or if they even react in the same way as we do. I'd argue the percentage of players pirating would be more substantial in the West due to zero availability of the game, but I have nothing to back that up and there are most likely far more players in Japan on BB. In fact, judging from the varying ages and genders I've seen playing the game in the arcades in Tokyo, it's almost casual! Yeah. BlazBlue. A casual game. But that's discussion for another thread.

   At this point, ArcSys may want to consider a new arcade platform (not Type X2) for the inevitable BlazBlue 3, to avoid this sort of thing occurring again.

   I eagerly await the (hopefully soon) announcement of a (hopefully) in production console version of Continuum Shift. You will have my moneys. :)

   Posted 2 years ago #
8. 

   Davin
   Member

   akakaze said:
   I tried to say as much and was insta-perma-banned from NeoGAF. I made a mistake. T_T

   Aksys are a swell bunch of folks for letting this discussion continue as long as they have, yeah. A few of the other forums would have entered thread lockdown just a few posts in. Speaking of which.

   Going back to the top of the thread, some prospects for supporting Aksys were mentioned. I think it's also important to remember that if our intention is to support Arcsys in the wake of the leak, the merchandise also needs to be from Arcsys.

   Best way to support Aksys:
   Buy their stuff, especially if it's new. Buy digital or from their direct store to maximize profit.

   Best way to support Arcsys:
   Buy additional copies of BB and GG:AC+ and hand them out to your friends. (GG:AC+ is in the Aksys store, BB is sadly not)

   As telepathy pointed out, the digital versions probably turn out a better profit for Aksys and Arcsys since they cut out the middle men and reduce resale. Too bad we can't do like we can with Steam, and buy digital licenses which we can hand out to friends. :\

   Posted 2 years ago #
9. 

   Davin
   Member

   akakaze said:
   I tried to say as much and was insta-perma-banned from NeoGAF. I made a mistake. T_T

   Aksys are a swell bunch of folks for letting this discussion continue as long as they have, yeah. A few of the other forums would have entered thread lockdown just a few posts in. Speaking of which.

   Going back to the top of the thread, some prospects for supporting Aksys were mentioned. I think it's also important to remember that if our intention is to support Arcsys in the wake of the leak, the merchandise also needs to be from Arcsys.

   Best way to support Aksys:
   Buy their stuff, especially if it's new. Buy digital or from their direct store to maximize profit.

   Best way to support Arcsys:
   Buy additional copies of BB and GG:AC+ and hand them out to your friends. (GG:AC+ is in the Aksys store, BB is sadly not)

   As telepathy pointed out, the digital versions probably turn out a better profit for Aksys and Arcsys since they cut out the middle men and reduce resale. Too bad we can't do like we can with Steam, and buy digital licenses which we can hand out to friends. :\

   Posted 2 years ago #
10. 

    Davin
    Member

    (Oh hey, I figured out a way to get this post through the spamblock. Sweet!)

    akakaze said:
    I tried to say as much and was insta-perma-banned from NeoGAF. I made a mistake. T_T

    Aksys are a swell bunch of folks for letting this discussion continue as long as they have, yeah. A few of the other forums would have entered thread lockdown just a few posts in. Speaking of which.

    Going back to the top of the thread, some prospects for supporting Aksys were mentioned. I think it's also important to remember that if our intention is to support Arcsys in the wake of the leak, the merchandise also needs to be from Arcsys.

    Best way to support Arcsys:
    Buy additional copies of BB and GG:AC+ and hand them out to your friends. (GG:AC+ is in the direct store, BB is sadly not)

    Best way to support Aksys:
    Buy their stuff, especially if it's new. Buy digital or from their direct store to maximize profit.

    As telepathy pointed out, the digital versions probably turn out a better profit for Aksys and Arcsys since they cut out the middle men and reduce resale. Too bad we can't do like we can with Steam, and buy digital licenses which we can hand out to friends. :\

    Posted 2 years ago #
11. 

    telepathy
    Member

    You should be able to buy more "game" gift codes.

    Posted 2 years ago #
12. 

    akakaze
    Member

    Assuming this is real, console CS might not be so far off. Of course this is just a rumor and for JP version, but still....

    http://kotaku.com/5463927/famitsu-accidentally-announces-new-love-plus-new-blazblue-console-version

    Posted 2 years ago #

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